I'm new here too and posting and reading and coming back to life... glad to see new ones posting! It exciting to see ppl waking up...
no more kool-aid but Coffee to wake you up!
Welcome!
hello all, it is nice to have a forum for former jw's and see i wasn't the only one out there having serious doubts.
my parents got into it when i was about 4 years old.
my family was part of the granville ny congregation.. my dad in time became an elder.
I'm new here too and posting and reading and coming back to life... glad to see new ones posting! It exciting to see ppl waking up...
no more kool-aid but Coffee to wake you up!
Welcome!
he knows i'm done, he's willing to fade.... out of the blue last night he tells me if i want to buy him a gift, he'd like the bacon bowl maker and the hamburger press (with the hollow center for fillings) so i will be buying him a valentine gift and i'm excited to be able to do it.~.
i'm looking forward to doing lots of things we couldn't do, we may have to secretly do them since we still have family in wt.
my mind is overwhelmed with excitement.... .
He knows I'm done, he's willing to fade...
Out of the blue last night he tells me if I want to buy him a gift, he'd like the bacon bowl maker and the hamburger press (with the hollow center for fillings) So I will be buying him a Valentine Gift and I'm excited to be able to do it.~
I'm looking forward to doing lots of things we couldn't do, we may have to secretly do them since we still have family in WT. My mind is overwhelmed with excitement...
I didn't do Xmas but visited with family that we avoided before and loved it this time. I'm planning on making candy and sending it to nonJW family for Valentines day.
What else ???? I think I'll take a cruise this year and find one with a casino~! OH and I want to buy a lottery ticket~! LOL at myself~!
possibly yes.
many wt doctrine dissenters have privately taken the bread&wine on that night for years.
one reason is that the new covenant is not for heaven, but for forgiveness of sin, and jesus served the emblems to those with an earthly hope.
I might be sick that night. Have to come up with a really bad case of ....??
i in a rest.
eating lunch an older lady comes in with her 2 kids.
the lady is fussy and i give her my table.
they'll tell everyone at the HK they were attacked by an apostate, and they'll be upheld as spirtually strong for holding on to Jehovah and saying his name over and over again in their minds... the duck and dive~!
WTG JYD~!
Bet she won't informal witness for a while~
i did believe for the first 30 years of my life that they had been picked by jehovah god to dispense the truth as best as imperfect humans could.
then, everything became questionable.
i had read anti jw books in the past but franz's books really got to me but not immediately.
At 24ish looking for a religion, and I thought they'd answered the questions I always had... thought they were the truth. Until I realized you can't just leave the org on your own free will. You will be label an apostate and your family who you brought in with you will be left behind. There's no freedom in this org. Period.
although i really hate the wt/jw shunning policy, which especially huts those who have been df'd, i find i am in a kind of way doing it to my jw family.. i do not include them in anything i do, in my own family gatherings, and i cannot be arsed to inform them of things going on in my family, or to even go and see them, unless really necessary.. this all adds up to a kind of "reverse shunning", and i do feel a twinge of guilt about it, but it is simply how things have become.. do you, fellow faders, find a similar thing happening ?.
Finding it hard to talk to my daughter. My husband and I spent Xmas with both our non JW families and loved it, even though they were all confused but glad we were there.... I am trying to hide the fact from my daughter that we were with family. My grandmother approached me Monday night and told me some of my people came to her door, "They'll be coming back" she said, I without thinking said, "don't you let them back in!" She was totally thrown. I've only told my mother of my plans to fade. Now my daughter knows of the couples visit to my grandmother's and they plan to return, I didnt know what to say. It comes around full circle real quick. Changing the subject is all I know to do.. but yes, I'm visiting less with anyone or talking to anyone from the hall because I'm afraid they'll read my face and know I'm out~!
ok. its been a year since my first post.
(i wasn't joking when i said it would take a while for any replies!!).
thanks for all of the kind words of support.. .
Casio,
I wish you were my son in law. Just within the week I've had my awakening, and I'm only going to stay for my daughter and grandkids. I only wish my sil was in your mind set. My daughter is more head strong and I can't imagine her questioning. It would take her husband to bring her to her senses. Please do what you can. GOod advice here as I've read trying to relate it to my situation. I'm sure there's a way to get her to see , but it will have to be her awakening... give it time. I've overwhelmed my husband and it's put him in a strange position. Just go slow...good luck!!!
hey guys !
i've stopped believing the watchtower crap a few years ago.
i achieved this on my own, despite being raised as one.
Cookiemaster,
Glad to see another defector here! I've only been here less than a week and I'm already waiting for a call from the elders saying they've found me out! It's horrible realizing the mind control they have, had or have had....
I'm waiting for payday so I can run out and get a few books recommended here. I need some reality checks and help to overcome the fears installed for so many years. I too have family in this mess. I'm struggling to stay quite. Glad to see your posts and look forward to reading more posts from you...
I now wonder how many in just my hall are waking up, but not ready to leave due to family and fear.
congrats on college, Keep it up!
as time goes forward people tend to change... expecially if you get out of a cult.
your brain for some reason gets de- and reprogrammed and you get other insights and new opinions.
you become a other human.. when reading back some of my previous posts (of about a year ago) i could not help but have a wtf-moment... i even felt a sudden way of "shame" of all the bullshit i was writing.. if you want to read some of mine just check my posts of about a year back.
Yeah I'm new here and I should just put my name and address on here with all the personal things I've wrote. Anyone from my Kh would know right away who I am... so I digress. They shouldn't be here anyway. I'm sure I'm gonna have lots of "smacks forehead" moments!!
one of the thing i appreciate most about this site is reading other people's experiences while in and out of the cult.
when i read other people's stories, it helps to validate my own experiences.
i rarely talked to anyone else besides my husband concerning my doubts, and so for the entire time that i was in i thought i was the only one having these negative experiences with the brothers in the kingdom hall.
I agree.
I think my years of Fatique, depression, anxiety attacks ( that only happened at the Khall) aches and pains that every other if not all sisters had also were from stress of WTS and it's life.
My thought, it's easy to be sick from something "they" can't see or prove. I know there are ones sick that truely suffer. But for me, I think it's all in my head.
FMS is gone now. Ended when I was divorced 5 years ago and was put on Paxil. Finally off the meds and remarried to one awesome man. Amazing what emotional stress can do to ones body and soul.
I'm trying to fade and it's mentally killing me at this time...just not letting it make me phyically ill, I've had enough of that!
Best wishes to you~~